Grullo Roan Hancock-bred Stallion
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Not Standing to Outside Mares
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"Rye" is a grullo roan 2004 stallion who is linebred
Hancock/Blue Valentine bred, and also goes back to Leo multiple times.
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Rye is about 14.3 hh, which is much smaller than many Hancock
horses. We like 14.3 hh...it's a very versatile height, allowing for more
athleticism/quickness than a huge, bulky horse. However, he doesn't
reproduce his size very well. Most of his foals are much larger at maturity
than he is regardless of the size of the mare.
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Rye is different than many high-percentage Blue Valentine
horses in his height, but also in his beauty! It is rare to find a
high-percentage Blue Valentine horse with such a pretty little head!
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His sire is a roping horse, WYO O Blue, who weighed 1325
pounds at age 7.
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His dam is a homozygous black daughter of Plenty Try.
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Rye is not "just" a Blue Valentine-bred horse. In
my opinion, the best Blue Valentine horses are those that were outcrossed
with some more modern breeding to add athleticism. Our former stallion
was a great cross of BV and Leo. Rye has some shots of Rip Rip and
Texas Blue Bonnet in him to add to his inclination for athleticism...and for
some "pretty!"
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Rye was kicked in
May of 2007 while live covering a mare. He was very lame for about 3 weeks,
but has recovered and doesn't appear to have lasting effects with soundness. Because of
that injury, he did not have many foals on the ground until the 2009 foal crop.
This also lead us to not return him to training (to prevent possible
injury), so he is only green broke and is unshown. He is definitely sound
on the leg to mount mares and the phantom, runs around without apparent
lameness, and probably is sound for training/using as well. However, I can't
represent him as a using horse without putting him back into training myself, and I
can't do that at this time.
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Rye easily got mares pregnant
through the 2010 breeding season.
I'll be honest and say that when I AI my own mares with him, I don't even
treat the collection well. I may extend it 1:1 or 2:1 with extender, or may
not extend at all. It doesn't seem to matter, as the mares conceive.
However, it doesn't look as good under the microscope as my other stallions'
collections,
so I've never shipped semen from Rye. Most people would see that semen and
think he wasn't very fertile, but he was very consistent and got the mares
pregnant! He also live covered a mare most years until maybe 2010, when I
just collected and AI'd out of convenience.
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EVA Tested Negative and Annually Vaccinated.
Last EVA vaccination was in the spring of 2010.
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HERDA: We have not tested Rye for Herda because he
doesn't appear to be descended from Poco Bueno.
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2010 Dental
Problem: In June of 2010, I had Rye's teeth floated because he has
always been a grain dropper, and I had the dentist here for other horses.
After the floating, he couldn't chew. He mouthed hay and dropped it in big
wet wads, and rapidly lost weight. The dentist came back and tried to adjust
him, but it didn't work. By December, Rye was nearly a walking skeleton with
a skin covering. He began improving in January of 2011, but is only halfway
or so back to his prior muscle level. On July 3, 2011 we picked up old hay
bales from about a 20' x 20' area in the barn and turned on a big fan to dry
the barn. He became a little heave-y, and I made the decision to either geld
him so he could be out with other horses or let him go, as the barn is not a
healthy place for him with all the wind blowing dust and mold in the air.
In the spring of 2011, a vet that is also a good dentist looked briefly at
Rye's teeth. He said it appears that the bottom teeth were ground down to
half the length that the top teeth are, and that most likely, they were
floated so short that their sensitive tissue was exposed. It will take time
for them to grow and catch up to the length of the top teeth. We did a CBC
and it all came back normal (no kidney or liver problems showed), but one
result indicated he was rebuilding muscle so the vet recommended daily grain
and vitamins while he rebuilds muscle.
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Guarantees: I
can't offer any guarantees on Rye's soundness or fertility because I have
not ridden him since his kick in 2007. I have not collected him in 2011 to
look at his semen to see if the 2010 dental float issue caused damage. He
covered a mare twice in 2011, but she was in heat 4 days later still, and I
was too busy working to cover her again. I put her with him the next cycle,
but she was not receptive and I never saw them breed.
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This is the type
of comments we have heard from Rye's foals' new owners. I haven't kept
all the e-mails, but thought I'd share this one because it reflects the
other comments we've had about Rye's foals: This
colt is probably one, if not "the," SMARTEST colts I have worked with
EVER..... I mean I have calm ones, willing, smart but this guy acts like
he has had lessons before and knows he just DOES........ he never fights
pressure just comes to you and faces you like he knows to face you.
First time I asked him to walk forward he walked like a broke dog ! NO
BABY DOES THAT ! - he's shy from being out since he was born so like to
touch him but he is curious and kind of doesn't care just doesn't know.
VERY SMART! (written by the owner of a 2010 colt by Crowheart WYO
Boy)
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2008-2010 (above)
4 years old (above)
4 years old (above)
4 years old (above)
A bit thin from breeding season, but happy!
3 years old (row above)
2007
2 1/2 years old (above)
2 years old
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Crowheart Wyo Boy
4587431 2004 grullo stallion
29.69% Blue
Valentine
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SIRE side of pedigree |
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Leo Hancock Hayes 1980
1683157 blue roan |
Blue Valentine 1956
0097116 roan
H- 0.0 P- 1.0 |
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Wyo Blue Bonnet 1992
3135976 grullo |
Doll 01 1970 by Rip
Rip by Leo
0717186 sorrel |
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Mandys Sue Hawk 1981
1763699 buckskin |
Wyo Kid Curry 1976
by Rip Rip by Leo, g-son BV 1281044 dun
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Wyo O Blue 1998 3740633
"Wyatt"
Grullo/Dun roan.
34.38% Blue Valentine
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Blue Hawk 22 1972 by
Plenty Coup, g-son of Joe Hancock
0841841 dun |
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Plenty Try 1982
1894414 blue roan |
Gooseberry 1973 by
Blue Valentine 0968815 bay roan
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Bonnie O Blue 1991
3036467 red roan |
Heather Dividend 1974
1052111 brown
42 3 0 0 0 $ 0 Super Barrel Mare! |
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Bonny 02 1970
0723400 blue roan |
Blue Valentine 1956
0097116 roan
H- 0.0 P- 1.0 |
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Bonnie Owens 11 1956
0061706 bay |
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DAM side of pedigree |
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Gooseberry 1973
0968815 bay roan |
Blue Valentine 1956
0097116 roan
H- 0.0 P- 1.0 |
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Plenty Try 1982
1894414 blue roan |
Fox Hastings 1965 by
Plenty Coup, g-son of Joe Hancock 0376183
chestnut |
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Heather Dividend 1974
1052111 brown
42 3 0 0 0 $ 0
Super Barrel Mare! |
Jets Sabre 1970
0710869 bay |
Chucker Blue Maid 1998
3740635 black
Homozygous for black
25% Blue
Valentine |
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Heather Heller 1968
0564976 bay |
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Gooseberry 1973
0968815 bay roan |
Blue Valentine 1956
0097116 roan
H- 0.0 P- 1.0 |
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Chucker Maid 1983
2077119 grullo |
Fox Hastings 1965
by Plenty Coup, g-son of Joe Hancock
0376183 chestnut |
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Chuckkar Maid 45 1969
0685855 dun |
Mandy's Dart 1957
0115141 dun
H- 0.0 P- 1.0 |
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Chukkar Maid 1957
0106911 grullo |
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This page last updated
08/10/20
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